The Death Of A Lurker
Jan. 15th, 2002 06:43 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
jackofallgeeksWell, with this new development in Nancy's Journal, I suppose The Lurker will no longer be able to comment, huh? Ah well, it was fun while it lasted. I doubt my comments would nessisarily be as meaningful now that my identity is known, but it is her decision, and her journal.
I would like to thank whoever it was that posted anonymously on the 12th, though - not only did they defend me, and not only did they say exactly what I would have anyways, but they covered my bases. If this new development hadn't happened, my identity would have been solidly obscured for sometime to come.
Ah well, even good things come to an end.
Note mind you, that I cannot support her decision to go 'Friends Only.'
*Shrugs*
Maybe it's not my place, but it is my journal, so I'll say what I like. As justified as her annoyance or anger may well have been, I just can't - well, let me put it this way. it's like living in a Dreamworld. If you only allow the people who agree with you say anything, all you'll ever get is agreement. I'm not saying I expect that of Leslie, and I rather think a good friend should tell you the way things are, even if it hurts. But it still remains - if you close everyone but your friends out, especially something like this, where's the benefit? Do you understand what I'm saying - opposition may not always be welcome, but squelching it like that...
As I said, her anger/annoyance may well have been justified, but this is my journal, and I'll write what I think. And, nothing personal Nancy, but I think it was a rather - immature's not the word, but it gets the job done - immature way of handling things. You slipped down to her level, even when I told her she shouldn't have gone there. It would have been better, in my perspective, to SHOW that you've grown apart from it, and that you can deal with it - to maybe engage her in civil discussion, if it's really no longer an issue. The only thing you really accomplished was equating yourself to her by using her same tactics, and besides that, you squelched her - and wether you care or not, she'll only smolder about that, and i don't think it's a fair thing to do to anybody.
Especially someone who seemed to have as many valid points as she did. No, I'm not choosing her side. I'm trying not to choose any side, which is one reason I like to remain anonymous. If you 'know' a person you can assume biases. But she had as many valid points as you did, not that either of you two had an overwhelming amount.
Call me cold (I'd dare say some of you must think it already) but I find it hard to respect anyone who lets their emotions...erupt like that. Anger is fine - I get angry. But it should not burst forth as to impede one's judgement or reason. You can naver make a good argument if you let anger lead you.
I honestly don't mean to offend - not Nancy, not Myers, not Leslie, not anyone. But if this is the only place I can seem to get my thoughts in the open, I'm going to do so. I don't intend to hurt any relationships I have with anyone involved (or not involved, as the case may be) and as much as I like to think honesty can't be detrimental, there are exceptions to every rule.
Old Soldiers Never Die. They Simply Fade Away.
I would like to thank whoever it was that posted anonymously on the 12th, though - not only did they defend me, and not only did they say exactly what I would have anyways, but they covered my bases. If this new development hadn't happened, my identity would have been solidly obscured for sometime to come.
Ah well, even good things come to an end.
Note mind you, that I cannot support her decision to go 'Friends Only.'
*Shrugs*
Maybe it's not my place, but it is my journal, so I'll say what I like. As justified as her annoyance or anger may well have been, I just can't - well, let me put it this way. it's like living in a Dreamworld. If you only allow the people who agree with you say anything, all you'll ever get is agreement. I'm not saying I expect that of Leslie, and I rather think a good friend should tell you the way things are, even if it hurts. But it still remains - if you close everyone but your friends out, especially something like this, where's the benefit? Do you understand what I'm saying - opposition may not always be welcome, but squelching it like that...
As I said, her anger/annoyance may well have been justified, but this is my journal, and I'll write what I think. And, nothing personal Nancy, but I think it was a rather - immature's not the word, but it gets the job done - immature way of handling things. You slipped down to her level, even when I told her she shouldn't have gone there. It would have been better, in my perspective, to SHOW that you've grown apart from it, and that you can deal with it - to maybe engage her in civil discussion, if it's really no longer an issue. The only thing you really accomplished was equating yourself to her by using her same tactics, and besides that, you squelched her - and wether you care or not, she'll only smolder about that, and i don't think it's a fair thing to do to anybody.
Especially someone who seemed to have as many valid points as she did. No, I'm not choosing her side. I'm trying not to choose any side, which is one reason I like to remain anonymous. If you 'know' a person you can assume biases. But she had as many valid points as you did, not that either of you two had an overwhelming amount.
Call me cold (I'd dare say some of you must think it already) but I find it hard to respect anyone who lets their emotions...erupt like that. Anger is fine - I get angry. But it should not burst forth as to impede one's judgement or reason. You can naver make a good argument if you let anger lead you.
I honestly don't mean to offend - not Nancy, not Myers, not Leslie, not anyone. But if this is the only place I can seem to get my thoughts in the open, I'm going to do so. I don't intend to hurt any relationships I have with anyone involved (or not involved, as the case may be) and as much as I like to think honesty can't be detrimental, there are exceptions to every rule.
Old Soldiers Never Die. They Simply Fade Away.
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I have to fight for that side because, as well-meaning as everything should seem, sometimes having someone constantly bother you gets old. In fact, it gets old REALLY quickly. So when there's always a lurker posting and making you feel bad when you started it (webpage, message board, online journal - whatever) to have a good time... then what else could you do?
In my case, I made my journal friends-only due to the offline people in my life that take pleasure in making my life difficult. They call me names, they torment me, they make me feel badly about myself and my life and for someone like me, that can turn deadly. I didn't make mine that way out of anger, but out of needing to find a place where I could go without constantly getting bashed by outside sources.
Livejournal has a weird way of getting people to make petty things into major things. While something like this does seem weird - public journal gone private - it is all up to the person keeping the journal, no matter what reasons are behind it.
I don't know. I just wanted to put in $.02, but I'm rambling and not making my point very well.
A Point Well Made
Date: 2002-01-15 05:20 pm (UTC)And, for the record, I wasn't being unkind to Nancy as The Lurker - I just don't feel I would quite be taken seriously by her if she knew it had been me. Y'know what I'm saying?