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jackofallgeeksJust had a very interesting conversation with a guy about Friends, Sex, Love, and everything inbetween... ^_^;; It was quite... interesting. It's conversations like that which remind me that, though I'm not quite as innocent as I pretend, I want to be.
Just a few quotes and comments, mostly things which I felt said something about me.
A lot of it you probably already know, but the conversation was worth recording -- sadly, like a stupid with which I am, I closed Trillian before saving the IM. Damnable.
Me: "I think a girlfriend should pretty much just be a best friend who lets you kiss her. That's about it."
Anyoneofus: "That sounds like a friend with benefits to me."
Me: "-shrugs- There's little difference, I think. One has a title."
Anyoneofus: "I'm a firm believer in the "you don't shit in your own backyard." You don't want to lose a friend, but eventually you will lose a girlfriend."
Me: "Yeah, that's something I'm afraid of with Claire and I. So far it hasn't happened yet. -phew-"
Me: You shouldn't ever feel forced into or out of a relationship -- it's spposed to be a comfort and a support, not a worry. You know what I mean? You should never be afraid of your relationship. Or something.
Anyoneofus: I just enjoy giving people pleasure. that's what it comes down to, really.
Me: I like giving people support. Mental, material, emotional -- I'm not a big physical-kinda guy, but sometimes it's the best way to express my affection.
Anyoneofus: "There has to be a lot of emotion there. Otherwise I'll just be lured away."
Me: "I'm a big ball of emotion. I'm really just looking for an outlet. In my experience, no one wants my affection."
Me: "When I say 'what gay men do is wrong,' I only mean it the same way as I think what straight couples do is wrong. I don't think people should have sex outside of marriage, regardless who you're scrumping with. I can't hold their feelings against them -- it's the same thing girls feel. And I can really sympathize with gay girls. They're all still people."
Anyoneofus: "That actually makes a lot of sense."
Me: "I'm a 20 year old virgin. Living proof that it can be done. You're not going to die without sex, and in the end, it'll mean more if you MAKE it mean more. If you save yourself, how much more important is it when you do finally give it?"
Me: "I'm the sorta guy who gets a thrill out of a girl laying on his shoulder -- I'll stick to the clean sort of enjoyment, thank you."
Me: "It's not about sex. It's about affection. It's about those little things, like holding hands, that no one ever thinks about. Those are the things that really matter, and without them... it doesn't even make much sense.
Just a few quotes and comments, mostly things which I felt said something about me.
A lot of it you probably already know, but the conversation was worth recording -- sadly, like a stupid with which I am, I closed Trillian before saving the IM. Damnable.
Me: "I think a girlfriend should pretty much just be a best friend who lets you kiss her. That's about it."
Anyoneofus: "That sounds like a friend with benefits to me."
Me: "-shrugs- There's little difference, I think. One has a title."
Anyoneofus: "I'm a firm believer in the "you don't shit in your own backyard." You don't want to lose a friend, but eventually you will lose a girlfriend."
Me: "Yeah, that's something I'm afraid of with Claire and I. So far it hasn't happened yet. -phew-"
Me: You shouldn't ever feel forced into or out of a relationship -- it's spposed to be a comfort and a support, not a worry. You know what I mean? You should never be afraid of your relationship. Or something.
Anyoneofus: I just enjoy giving people pleasure. that's what it comes down to, really.
Me: I like giving people support. Mental, material, emotional -- I'm not a big physical-kinda guy, but sometimes it's the best way to express my affection.
Anyoneofus: "There has to be a lot of emotion there. Otherwise I'll just be lured away."
Me: "I'm a big ball of emotion. I'm really just looking for an outlet. In my experience, no one wants my affection."
Me: "When I say 'what gay men do is wrong,' I only mean it the same way as I think what straight couples do is wrong. I don't think people should have sex outside of marriage, regardless who you're scrumping with. I can't hold their feelings against them -- it's the same thing girls feel. And I can really sympathize with gay girls. They're all still people."
Anyoneofus: "That actually makes a lot of sense."
Me: "I'm a 20 year old virgin. Living proof that it can be done. You're not going to die without sex, and in the end, it'll mean more if you MAKE it mean more. If you save yourself, how much more important is it when you do finally give it?"
Me: "I'm the sorta guy who gets a thrill out of a girl laying on his shoulder -- I'll stick to the clean sort of enjoyment, thank you."
Me: "It's not about sex. It's about affection. It's about those little things, like holding hands, that no one ever thinks about. Those are the things that really matter, and without them... it doesn't even make much sense.
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Have you ever noticed I can be long-winded at times...?
Date: 2003-02-10 07:47 pm (UTC)0) I told you before, but it bears repeating, so as to impress it upon others -- you never have to apologize for leaving comments -- I don't care if you feel you have nothing important or 'intelligent' or pertinent enough. I don't care if it looks like we have a Discussion going, and you just want to make a comment on something else that was said. I don't care if you start talking (as Mel has done) with each other -- I encourage that a lot, actually. I don't even care if you just make a REALLY random, off the wall kinda "I like Pickled Beets" comment -- I'm a bit goofy, myself, from time to time.
The point is, all comments of all kinds are welcome. Should the need arise, I'll delete comments, but you all shouldn't worry about that. And I ask that you not delete your own comments (unless it's an accidental multi-post or something) because it all ADDS to my journal, and I like to keep that sorta stuff around. A man is often measured by the company which he keeps -- and I like my company.
1) LOL I'm glad. ^_^;; Like I said, I felt this discussion said a lot about my personal philosophy, and it's nice to hear that people think it's worthwhile.
2) LOL As Mel said, you can make and keep that promise to yourself regardless of how young you are. It's actually better the earlier you decide it, I think, because then you can say "No, this is what I want, and I'm going to stick by it." I think you're a very intelligent girl for making the choice, and I'm not a big fan of 'experience.' You don't have to stick your hand in a fire to know it'll burn you -- you can take the word of other people.
3) -giggles- You know, when I have this family of mine, regardless of how large or how small, you two ladies are definitely going to have to expect not just pictures, but all-out family visits. -nods-
4) If you apologize again, I will have to seriously tickle you. -nods solemnly- I know where you live, Girl.
Re: Have you ever noticed I can be long-winded at times...?
Date: 2003-02-10 08:13 pm (UTC)[you're.really.silly]
I Like Pickled Beets
Date: 2003-02-10 08:35 pm (UTC)-imagines Mel's imagi-family playing with his own and grins-
That'd be royally awesome.
[i.get.that.alot]
-giggles-
I like... uhm... circus peanuts? No, really, I like marshmellows. ^___^
Wouldn't it? Ka-wa-ii. Completely. Hehehe...
I actually lied. I don't like pickled beets. I DO like Pickled cauliflowers, though.
Date: 2003-02-10 09:21 pm (UTC)-giggles- Kawaii. So desu, hai.