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So, hold up, more than 10% of my pay is lost to Federal taxes? $56.13 withheld from a $530.00 paycheck! To say nothing of state taxes or the other withholdings... All told, I lost nearly 25% of my paycheck to the government!

Date: 2004-05-26 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dikaiosunh.livejournal.com
Well, the gov't does use that money for roads and stuff.

Mostly roads in Iraq these days, but still.

And the Strom Thurmond Health & Wellness Center.

Date: 2004-05-26 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com
I'd just as soon they left me my money. I'd rather pay a toll on a road and know that the money was used on the road's upkeep than have my money evaporate and wonder what it was being used to fund...

I've never been a great fan of federal healthcare, either...

Date: 2004-05-26 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dikaiosunh.livejournal.com
Oh, the Thurmond center isn't really healthcare. It's pure pork.

I mentioned roads mostly because - along with national defence and law enforcement - they're (well, large highways at least) traditional market-failure areas (using taxes to solve market failures is typically what separates the libertarians from the anarchists). I'd also argue that health care is an area of market failure, but that's for another day.

Detailed information on the federal budget can be obtained from the Congressional Budget Office (though interpreting a federal budget is a skill in itself).

Date: 2004-05-26 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com
I'd just figured that the Thurmond center was a spoof you'd made up. Still, I generally hold that I'm not a fan of Federal healthcare.

I think, perhapse, I'm more libertarian than I'd like to admit, but I'd be far more comfortable paying fewer taxes.

Date: 2004-05-26 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dikaiosunh.livejournal.com
Nope, didn't make it up. But I was mistaken in the name, it's actually the Strom Thurmond Wellness and Fitness Center. To be fair, it's paid for by a combination of SC state funds, alumni donations, USC money, and federal funds. And Byrd (D-WV) is still the reigning King of Pork.

Date: 2004-05-26 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] photoholic62.livejournal.com
Taxation with representation ain't so hot either.

Date: 2004-05-26 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com
That's what I'm saying!

Date: 2004-05-26 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] photoholic62.livejournal.com
If it bugs you now, never become self employed. The government lists our pay scale as 'poverty level' (although, we live well because we have no debt) and yet, we have to send them 700 bucks every three months, and another thousand or so on tax day.

ha!

Date: 2004-05-26 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xenu.livejournal.com
and you don't even pay philadelphia wage taxes!

Re: ha!

Date: 2004-05-26 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com
No, but I do pay Maryland State taxes. Is there much of a difference?

Re: ha!

Date: 2004-05-27 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xenu.livejournal.com
try:
PA State tax
all the other fun jaz

AND philly wage tax

Date: 2004-05-26 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tzohekiti.livejournal.com
At least you HAVE a paycheck! *shakes paper cup* spare some change for the buy-Anastasiya-dvds-fund

Date: 2004-05-26 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timv.livejournal.com
Ah....but look at what you've GAINED from the government!

Date: 2004-05-27 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com
You mean like the education system I don't trust, the medical I don't use, the welfare I don't believe in, and that road work that's never done?

OK, that may be a littlar harsh, just listing the sore spots; I'm not a complete ingrate. But I don't think they need 1/5th of my paycheck to do it, and if they do I'd expect to see a campaign to convince me they need it, that I might give willingly, rather than have them stick their hands in my pockets.

Date: 2004-05-27 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timv.livejournal.com
You mean like the education system I don't trust, the medical I don't use, the welfare I don't believe in, and that road work that's never done?
Yeah yeah!! All that stuff!!

Date: 2004-05-27 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com
-laughs-
You're either far more optomistic than I, or far my sarcastic.
I can't tell which. :p

Date: 2004-05-27 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timv.livejournal.com
sarcasm

Date: 2004-05-27 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metis2be.livejournal.com
"if they do I'd expect to see a campaign to convince me they need it, that I might give willingly"

you know that if they made a campaign on why they needed your money, you would be spiteful of them wasting your money just to tell you why they need it.

also, this was in the papers today http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58808-2004May26.html
because if the taxes didn't take enough, they're now going to charge you more for everything else, too.

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