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Modesty.

Recently, passing through Friends' journals and reading through Friends' Friends' journals, I've stumbled upon the issue of modesty and who's 'responsible.'

That sounds quite awkward.
Who's responsible? Who's responsible for what?

Tori Amos was quoted, "So I wore a slinky red thing, does that mean I should spread?" Tori has such a way with words. The point was, if a girl wears 'immodest' clothes, and some guy has impure thoughts, who's at fault? Surley not the girl, it was argued, because surely she wasn't inviting it, or asking for it, or what have you.

Take a step back. Tori's song is about rape. I'm not touching that subject, and my comment that she "wasn't asking for it" isn't meant to apply there.

That having been said, it takes two to tango. I think it's a commonly accepted belief that men struggle with lust quite a bit. Every two minutes, it's been claimed. The thing of it is that while, yes, men have a responsibility to control themselves, doesn't it also follow that women have a 'responsibility' to not tempt, directly or indirectly? If you're trying to help an addict, you don't wave heroine in front of him. Is it not irresponsible, to some extent, for women to put us into that situation?

-shrugs- Maybe it's just me. You know, I can be odd at times. But still, it seems only reasonable that if a girl's walking around exposed, at least some of the blame is hers. -shrugs-

Date: 2004-04-14 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com
Oh, I completely agree. I'm not some purity Nazi or anything, understand, and I grant that some guys could care less about anything other than what makes them feel good... You would really have to see more of what prompted this, really, to get where I'm coming from... It basically had to do with an icon of a girl in skimpy lingere and the perpetrater claiming "their tits; if i were something skimpy and you get off on it, you're the sicko." Basically, she has no responsibility at all as far as what she wears and the effect it has on men. You'll note that I don't deny that men have a responsibility to keep themselves clean, too, and I don't deny that there are ass-holes out there. I simply claim that women aren't free from all responsibility, and depending on how immodest they go, they can be quite detrimental.

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