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[jackofallgeeks]

-snears-
So there's this pseudo-friend of mine, a girl who I met out on the West Coast. About a year after I moved back East, she told me she was gay. Then she told me she was seeing a 34-yr old (She was 18). Then she'd slept with the 34-yr old, then a 17-yr old, then a 24-yr old... Now she's all-but-bragging about 'turning' a highschool girl, and how she 'feels sorry' for the guy who likes said highschool girl. And then she goes on to say how this other girl -- the ex-lover of an ex-lover -- is coming to see her for a few days. But it's not that she's interested in her, she just wants to "get drunk and sleep with her."

At once this all disgusts and enrages me, and it's not really due to the homosexuality -- some of my closest friends are gay. I just get this overwhelming feeling of... like an oily film over me, and I just want to break something.

Sorry for the poor guy indeed.

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[naughtjennifer.livejournal.com]

I'm reminded of an interesting article I once read.

"Coming out of the closet" was originally popularized as an excuse for people to continue sleeping around and not worry about being pressured to marriage. The push for homosexual marriages comes from homosexuals who wish to become respectable members of society. If homosexual marriage gets through, the people who plead homosexuality to propagate their commitment free lifestyle will no longer be allowed to be so and remain respectable.

It brings a very different perspective to the whole debate, and is an interesting thing for your mind to chew on.

As for "turning" someone, if that means what it seems to imply (that she's trying to convince someone that they're homosexual), it seems to be a drastic departure from the often preached "live and let live" philosophy that homosexuals campaign.

I have nothing agaisnt homosexuals, but, based on what you've said, this person seems to be a paragon of the things related to homosexuality which I am against.

I can sympathize with your feeling.

(On a side note, I really need to get around to making new LJ icons. These don't seem to express me well enough . . .)

[jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com]

She embodies most things about other people, generally, that disgust me -- plainly, her utter lack of responsibility in any sense, her seeming disinterest in the effect on others that her behavior has, and a complete disregard for anything except in so far as it makes her feel better.

That article does make an interesting observation on the respectability of homosexual commitment. As I said, there are a number of homosexual people who I have a lot of admiration for (*nods to Kincaid and Mel*). At the same time, the whole 'turning' this isn't as uncommon as one might hope, at least from my (admittedly limited) experience. And, of course, she has no real interest in the highschool girl except as another plaything, one which she will inevitably drop when she gets bored. Regardless of sexual orientation, I find that to be both disgusting and enraging!

Said girl has begun to talk less and less with me, presumably because she has some sense of exactly how much I disdain her behavior. Before, she would come to me 'apologetically' when she felt she'd done something 'wrong,' and ask for my advise. None of which was ever what she was looking for, and none of which she ever took.

[metis2be.livejournal.com]

I don't really believe any of what she's doing is real. With all the experiences I've had doing the kind of thing you describe (by no means the same actions, I never have and don't intend to sleep around) most actions like that are more of an escape. There's normally some aspect of a persons life that they can't deal with, so they cover up what they see as weakness with stupid impulse actions. The problem is, the actions are worse than the weakness, which involves its own cover up, which tends to be flaunting the actions to prove it doesn't bother the person (I'm sure you've noticed me doing this at least once)

I don't know. I've just been evaluating myself lately and found that pattern in my actions, so it seems more likely right now that she's hiding herself than actually just doesn't give a crap about her actions and who she'll hurt. I don't understand people like that and how they can be like that, so this is just my humble little opinion.

[jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I don't understand that sort, either... Part of what gets to me is that I used to know this girl. And yeah, she was a little vapid and a little insecure, but she wasn't vicious. And now she is, or seems to be, and show no sign of even wanting to care about it...

And, actually, for as unstable as I'm sure you think you are, you seem like a half-decent girl. Yeah, I don't think you should be doing some of what you do, but I think you know that, and the fact that you're even thinking about it is a good sign. Or something. And yeah, I think I have seen you flaunt things in an attempt to prove they don't bother you... -smiles-

Passing note -- awesome icon, awesome movie, and even more awesome song!