what r u talking 'bout?

[jackofallgeeks]

It just occured to me that while seeing things like, "u r 2 weird" posted all around the internet bugs the HELL out of me, I still continue to used 'shortcuts' like "t'morrow" and "S'alright" and the like. It seems to me, then, that this in itself could be similarly vexing. Granted, on my side of things it's an attempt to "type as I speak," in which case I do tend to slur "tomorrow" and such. Still...
I haven't decided if I'm going to reform my online 'speach pattern' or not, but I'd be interested in anyone else's opinions -- (a) do things like "u r 2 weird" bug the hell out of you, too, and (2) is my tendancy to slur words and phrases online a bother which necessarily should be rectified.

Mom always laughs and says it's a good thing I'm not an English Major, because I break all the rules. I'm thinking, though, that I may have potential yet.  ^_~

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[surichan.livejournal.com]

Dude, I "slur" too. But I don't think that's a bad thing - it's typing like you speak, as you say, and I don't think it's inapppropriate except in places where formality is a must. On the other hand, the use of "u" for "you" and "r" for "are", etc. etc. is just an eyesore. It fosters a look of total laziness and unintelligence. It screams, "Lookit me, yo, I'm so dumb, I can't type three letters; I have to settle for one."

It's just stoopid.

[oceans-of-jade.livejournal.com]

I think phrases like "u r 2 weird" are irritating (as opposed to "S'alright") because they are so freakin' ugly! ^__^; No, but really.. "S'alright" and "t'morrow" are slurs you often say and so writing them in an IM chat seems natural, because you're simply typing exactly how you would be thinking those words. Using "u" and "r" and "2" strike me as retarded because "u" is not pronounced any different than "you", so I see no need to shorten it.

(Of course, I could just undermine my whole point by saying that when taking notes in class or writing stories I often use shortcuts like "b/c" for "because" and "w/o" for without. Recently, I also seem to have picked up the habit of using "@" for "at". But I won't point that out, because that'd be just silly! ^_~)

There is a time and a place for such language: (a) when you're making fun of those people and (b) when you're just plain being silly. ^___^;

But to answer your other question, I can't say I've ever noticed or been bothered by your use of shortcuts.

[jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com]

Of course, I could just undermine my whole point by saying that when taking notes in class or writing stories I often use shortcuts like "b/c" for "because" and "w/o" for without. Recently, I also seem to have picked up the habit of using "@" for "at". But I won't point that out, because that'd be just silly! ^_~

I think we can all agree that shortcuts while taking notes, of all things, is more than acceptable, especially if you're required to scrawl copious amounts of diction of the period of several hours.

Taking such shortcuts in the transcript of a story, though... I suppose I MIGHT be able to forgive that, as long as we're only talking about notes and the like -- that is, done with the express intention of fixing it before it 'goes to press,' you might say.

[oceans-of-jade.livejournal.com]

...that is, done with the express intention of fixing it before it 'goes to press,' you might say.

Well yes, I fix them up nice and proper before they reach the eyes of anyone else. That's one reason why I'm hesitant to let people read what I've handwritten: I often have notes and scratched out portions and shortcut phrases that not everyone will understand. Or worse, some might think that's how I really write, but I only do it because my hand will start to hurt after a while and it seems to be my way of giving it a break. ^__~

[angeliccelestia.livejournal.com]

Nothing wrong with typing as you speak. I tend to use things suchs as "t'was", myself. I must probably come off as some strange hybrid of Olde English and some valley dude when I talk online, and post in ye olde journals. ^_^;;
And yes, I find ye olde "newbie speak" extremely annoying - glad I'm not the only one! "t'morrow" sounds far more intelligent than "2morrow". And, "y r u" gives me a headache to no end! x__x Does it take that much effort to type "why are you"? Didn't think so!

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[jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com]

I don't mean to pick on you, but I think Leslie might take it personally, so... Yet another proof that I'm an English Major at heart is the way "t'was", makes me nauseous. That is, the punctuation should go inside the quotes. Not that I ask anyone to fix such glaring errors, but i've wanted to voice that opinion for a while.

I'm actually a fan of Olde English myself, and British spellings for a number of different words, generally. I'm still undecided about Toledo 'colour,' but it's growing on me. Additionally, I think there's some break between newbie-speak and 1337, at least in small doses. I'm not a HUGE fan of 1337, but I'll accept it as an alternate language. It often takes more thought to type 1337 than English, where as newbie is just... stupid and lazy. It's designed for people who just want to shoot out base concepts as fast as they can, and/or those who can't type 'to speed' and have no inclination to improve.

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[jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com]

As a side note, I find endless humour when my brother 'translates' from 1337 into 'intelligent English.' It's fun, yes.  ^__^

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[dreamingaloud.livejournal.com]

and see, hacker talks makes me want to slam my head - nice and hard - into the wall until bloody. it's harsh on my eyes. it's difficult to understand at first. if i wanted to translate... i'd go try and read japanese, or spanish, or anything else such as that.

i pretty much type exactly how i talk. only in person i'm way more animated and rambling. i get into more serious topics for longer periods of time. my voice cracks when i get too involved. little things nobody would really notice unless they were paying overly close attention. which, thank fuzzy, nobody DOES. ::whew::

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[jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com]

LOL Like I said, I accept 1337 as an alternate language -- but you might as well be typing german for all I can understand it (that is to say, I DO understand a very little German...)

I'm actually more expressive online, I think. Phones intimidate me even when I'm talking to, say, Rachel. I would argue that I'm a much more shy person in-person, but some here would disagree.
Saddly, I find I've had to be much too serious in Real Life as of late. I just haven't been able to cut loose and be me. It's sad. -nods-

[mockette.livejournal.com]

i absolutely HATE people using "u" and "r" for YOU and ARE. its drives me insane!!! and all my friends use it too! blech! and personally andrew... I ADORE your little shortcuts! every time i see them i just have to smile! ::giggle:: it makes it seem more like i am actually talking to our andrew portner. go right on ahead and keep on using them! :)

[jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com]

^_^ Yes, well, I've found through experience that your age-range is the most inclined towards Newbie-speak, and i'm quite glad you're not one of Them.

LOL And thak you ever so much for the compliments, dear. ^_^ I love you, Mere.
That was the general idea behind typing as I speak -- so that it was more of a conversation.

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[naughtjennifer.livejournal.com]

The occasional use of 1337 is fun, especially when I'm arguing facetiously(ie. butter is better than jelly because it's "|3\/7732," which is cooler than "j311!3"). I'd consider 1337 a different language because a)idiots can't read it. Yuo need to know a little about 1337 to understand it and 2)it 0wnz0rz j00. Also, it's fun to make fun of 1337 (see reason 2). Newbie speak's just that, though. I can't respect someone who thinks that's an acceptable way to converse when not using a cell-phone. It's ok with cell-phones because it's hard to type messages on one of those things.