jackofallgeeks: (Wrath)
John Noble ([personal profile] jackofallgeeks) wrote2003-09-04 08:24 pm

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I'm rather enjoying this LJ-Prolife community. Sometimes I think it's a bit futile preaching to the choir, but it is good to bat around ideas, ask questions, and (especially for me) know there are others out there.

Just this evening, there was a thread started talking about how men are afraid to be pro-life. In that thread, there was a comment which read, in part:

There are a huge number of women out there raising their sons to be nothing but mindless drones - or "good husbands" as they would put it. It's a reverb against the way women have been traditionally repressed. They figure, what's good for the gander is good for the goose. They treat men the way they feel they have been treated, and it's getting worse as time goes on, and they are raising their sons to buy into it all.

This lightly touches on yet ANOTHER thing that's bothered me for some time. The fact is guys and girls are different, and not just cause each has a few different parts. Psychologically, chemically, emotionally, physically... We're so different, we don't even THINK on the same lines, and I don't think anyone will argue me on that. Guys and girls have across the board always had difficulty understanding eachother. And it BOTHERS me how... You can't raise a boy the same way you raise a girl. And the fact that guys are more oriented in physical realities (generally) isn't just because we're raised a certain way, or treated differently as a baby. We're DIFFERENT... I read a study once where they tried raising little boys the same way they raised little girls, in the hopes that the boys would be less inclined towards physical violence (I'm not a violent man, but every now and then I would just like to break things). It didn't work, but people still think along those lines. They don't recognize that we're hardwired to be BOYS, and that doesn't mean we'll all be overly aggressive, or even that we SHOULD be overly aggressive; but we're not girls.

This has quickly degenerated into a mostly-mindlerss rant, and I've lost track of most of my arguments... What it comes down to is that we need more men to act like men, Convicted, Noble, Loyal... not how we seem to be churning out guys who will not take a stance and....

-_-
Yes, more men need to act like men. I end it here.

[identity profile] jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com 2003-09-09 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
If nothing else, we allow ourselves a chance to look at our own case and become more convince of our position. I think that's good for each of us. As counter-point, though, it's a moot point why abortion, or anything for that matter, was made legal or illegal; wrong is wrong. I'll agree that we'd all be better off if the government would leave us well enough alone...

It has been nice. I suppose this is the end, though, huh? If so, I wish you well.

[identity profile] musicmz.livejournal.com 2003-09-09 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Indeed it further grounds us in our cause. Although our views of what is wrong in this case are quite different, at least there's agreement that the government should back off.

Perhaps we'll meet again sometime. I don't know if you've been there, but [livejournal.com profile] abortiondebate could certainly use some more prolife people. Most are fearful of saying much of anything, but much like this, it gives you more insight into the other side and how to argue your case against it. Have a good night!

[identity profile] jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com 2003-09-09 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the link -- as much as I love verbal sparring, it tires me so. That notwithstanding (and the fact that maybe my side needs a few more on their bench), maybe I'll check it out sometime.

-grins- And in parting, I'd like t'say you're pretty cool.

[identity profile] musicmz.livejournal.com 2003-09-09 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
As are you... I see we're both quite stubborn, than I saw we were born two days apart and tauruses are known for that kind of thing ;)

[identity profile] jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com 2003-09-09 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
-grins- Yes, I'm known for tenacity, loyalty, and a smoldering temper, all hallmarks of the Tauri. Heh, I noticed you were two days younger than me. I'll refrain from "young'in" comments and the like.