jackofallgeeks: (Contemplative)
John Noble ([personal profile] jackofallgeeks) wrote2002-04-04 07:20 pm

Ranting Lunatic

Hmmm, yes, I fear this post.

You see, I have something to say. A point to make if you will. Most unfortunately, i'm afraid few here would agree with me. No, I seek not agreement. I fear many here would be offended. I don't mean to offend, it's not my intent, and as such it's aggrivating when someone takes personally what I mean generally.

This being my journal, I truely see no reason NOT to post what I want. I would like to hear input from all of you. But I would ask that if you're going to take this personally, if you're going to get mad at me for what I say, then please don't continue. I don't mean to anger or attack anyone, I simply wish to speak my mind.


The Ruling Minority

I don't have anything against minorities. Whatever makes them minorities - gender, race, sexual orientation, what have you - they're still people, just like everyone else. It's the 'just like anyone else', I think, that provokes this line of thought. As people, yes, they are entitled to the same rights as anyone else, and while I recognize that such laws and ordinences were established to secure the basic rights of minorities, I don't think that there should be special rules for Minority Rights.

Now then, before we go any further, I suppose one might wish to examine the Author. I mean, look at him - he's white, male, Catholic, Upper-middle class - you couldn't ask for a better example of the US Majority, could you? There's not a single minority he can claim sympathy for. I disagree, for you see, I'm a Lefty. You laugh, I'm sure, but have you ever taken time to think about it? The world is against us - can't use can openers, or scissors, or a number of different mechanisms which are specifically geared towards the Right Majority. Again, I'm sure you laugh, but we don't get any special consideration. That's not the point, though.

Minority Rights, I think, hold a double standard. Everyone's equal, but since these people are different in these specified ways, they get special privleges. And it is special privleges - Affirmative Action, for example, impedes healthy competition. Yes, it's wrong for a company to not hire minorities, and schools to not accept minorities, but it's wrong to MAKE them, under threat of legal punishment. This follows my belief that you can't control society through laws - you can't enforce a morality on people through legislation. You can't MAKE people do the right thing.

But, further than that, why should someone get something extra just because there are fewwer people like them? Really, where's the sense? Doe's Majority not mean anything anymore?

Minority Rights also have a disgusting potential for abuse. A poor store clerk is trying to keep up with the customers, misses one who just happens to be black, and all of a sudden some one screams racism. It's not as far fetched as you might think. Another point about Minority Rights is they don't encourage unity, but perpetuate the sepparation that already exists.

I fear I can't adequetly express myself. It's frustrating, because as I don't intend to offend someone, I fear that's exactly what I'm about to do by hitting 'post'. I feel I push people away enough as it is, without then believing that I intend to attack them.
I don't. Really. But what more can I say?

Now, you may want to be seated before you read this...

[identity profile] surichan.livejournal.com 2002-04-04 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
...but I actually agree with you on this one. Affirmative Action is one of the WORST things ever to come about. It in itself is discrimination, in that a person of one race/sex can get a job and another can't. In fact, it's REVERSE discrimination, giving jobs, scholarships, positions, etc. to someone who may be less qualified simply on basis of race or sex. Now, if someone in a minority group IS better-qualified than the white male also vying for the job, then by all means, they should get it. But you're absolutely right - you cannot legislate morality. It crosses too many lines and brings up far too many difficulties.

So rest easy, Andrew - you haven't offended me on this one. In fact, I applaud you.

EXACTLY!

[identity profile] jackofallgeeks.livejournal.com 2002-04-04 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
That's my point! Most ever single attempt to secure Minority Rights, in any way and for whatever reason, seems to me to ALWAYS digress into reverse descrimination, because that's what it is. If there's a job opening, it's descriminatory NOT to take the more qualified individual, regardless of minority or majority status.

And yes, you may agree with me here.
My second point I never touched. It was on a specific minority - the gay minority. I have nothing against the gay community - some of my closest friends are gay (and it sucks, cause they're all cute ><*). I don't know that I could adequetly express myself, and I fear it's too touchy a sybject considering the company I keep. I will not that I find it irksome when one gets excited by finding a celebrity (or anyone for that mater) is gay. No one would care that an actor was straight, but it draws excitement when one claims the alternative. It's the same double standard, and it's almost an attack on the straight people. I'll admit to a certain loyalty towards my fellow lefties, and I'll be the first to tell you that Kermit the Frog is One Of Us (watch him play banjo), but really... ><* Like I said, I can't adequetly express myself.

Re: EXACTLY!

[identity profile] serenabuny.livejournal.com 2002-04-04 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You know not only is that reverse discriminatin, but minorities are often more "racist, whatever" than the majority. Take for instance that black lady who slapped me at wok because I was "a racist bitch" because I wasn't serving her fast enough and obviously the white family who had been there before her were never there before she got there(rolls eyes)...