I think in the dispute here it is all about how one views the body. If one views it as something shameful and/or secret that has to be covered up, and feel that flaunting is bad, then that's one thing. While I think flaunting is not the way to go about living one's life, I also have no problem with viewing a naked body or having one myself in less than intimate settings. Sure, due to social stigmas, I don't tend to run around naked, nor would I really care to, but I am comfortable with the idea of a body as something everyone has and I feel that it's not something to get worked up over.
As to the girl in a bra and cut offs, it's all about her intentions. If she's genuinely hot, and it's miserable to be wearing more clothing, than I don't blame her a bit for her outfit. If she's doing it to try to get a reaction, then yes, she is to blame because that's what she's trying to do.
It's all about intent. There are clothes I have that I generally wouldn't wear unless it's goddamn miserably hot and I can't spent my entire day in a cold bathtub. But when I wear them, they could be considered immodest, because of the unavoidable amount of cleavage I end up baring, coupled with the fact that I'm all hot and sweaty and glistening with steamy trails of wetness dripping off of my body... do you see how something like that could be entirely unintentional? Would you be blaming me in that situation?
There are other shirts I have that are cut to bring out my figure, and yes, even to flaunt that same-said cleavage. But I don't end up looking like some stripper or whore off of the street. I'd wear any of these shirts in front of my mother. If I'm just wearing one of these to go to the store for some milk and I get manhandled inappropriately, the blame is entirely on the other person breaking approprate social bounds. If I'm really going out to have fun and I'm "on display" and I get manhandled, I believe it is not my DRESS that gets me there, it is my ACTIONS. I could be wearing the most restrictive, unattractive dress possible, but still act in such a way to bring the same treatment upon myself.
But honestly, you'll find me quite biased, as someone who was inappropriately handled as a child from a trusted individual. I've had to really pick the situation apart to be able to live my life as a normal person. I've had to believe that "it wasn't my fault" or I would have lost my sanity long ago. I still believe in the sanctity of a body, and even if I am advertising, you better not touch me unless I've indicated that it's okay, and I think every other person has that right too.
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As to the girl in a bra and cut offs, it's all about her intentions. If she's genuinely hot, and it's miserable to be wearing more clothing, than I don't blame her a bit for her outfit. If she's doing it to try to get a reaction, then yes, she is to blame because that's what she's trying to do.
It's all about intent. There are clothes I have that I generally wouldn't wear unless it's goddamn miserably hot and I can't spent my entire day in a cold bathtub. But when I wear them, they could be considered immodest, because of the unavoidable amount of cleavage I end up baring, coupled with the fact that I'm all hot and sweaty and glistening with steamy trails of wetness dripping off of my body... do you see how something like that could be entirely unintentional? Would you be blaming me in that situation?
There are other shirts I have that are cut to bring out my figure, and yes, even to flaunt that same-said cleavage. But I don't end up looking like some stripper or whore off of the street. I'd wear any of these shirts in front of my mother. If I'm just wearing one of these to go to the store for some milk and I get manhandled inappropriately, the blame is entirely on the other person breaking approprate social bounds. If I'm really going out to have fun and I'm "on display" and I get manhandled, I believe it is not my DRESS that gets me there, it is my ACTIONS. I could be wearing the most restrictive, unattractive dress possible, but still act in such a way to bring the same treatment upon myself.
But honestly, you'll find me quite biased, as someone who was inappropriately handled as a child from a trusted individual. I've had to really pick the situation apart to be able to live my life as a normal person. I've had to believe that "it wasn't my fault" or I would have lost my sanity long ago. I still believe in the sanctity of a body, and even if I am advertising, you better not touch me unless I've indicated that it's okay, and I think every other person has that right too.