jackofallgeeks: (Wrath)
John Noble ([personal profile] jackofallgeeks) wrote2003-02-28 03:07 pm

WTF!?

Shirley, You Jest.

I can't even believe this is actually still running. The Pledge of Alligence declared Unconstitutional? It makes me sick. I mean, for crying out loud, this nation was founded in an effort to promote religious tolerance, and I'm all for that -- but it seems to me that we are fast on our way to smothering anything remotely religious, all in the name of not offending anyone.

Fuck that, it's my Constitutional Right to offend someone if I so choose (read the Bill of Rights, it's in there implicitly). Shouldn't we be interested in TOLERATING religion, rather than smothering it?

[identity profile] naughtjennifer.livejournal.com 2003-02-28 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
for the record, their judgement was based on a false premise. If it were specifically mentioning the Christian God, it would be "under Jehova" or "under Yahweh." "God" is a religiously neutral term, referring to what a person beleives is the one superior being. By logic, someone needs to beleive somethign is supreme, whether it be man, morality, science, nature, public opinion, etc, that supremem being is their god. If all are equal, the everythin is god, also known as pantheism.

This is not seperation of church and state. This goes against seperation of chrch and state. This is making America an Atheist state.

Take this to historical context...

[identity profile] serenabuny.livejournal.com 2003-03-02 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
We know for a fact that the founders of our country meant the Christian god. They were mostly Protestant men. It's not smothering religion to make it unconstitutional, it's making children of all religions speak for a God whether he's there's or not. If children weren't made to say it I'd be fine, but you know, I don't agree with God being on our money either. It gives the US an official religion. The entire world sees us as mostly Christian so they all think the Christian God when they read and hear that. Not right for the rest of the country. Just my opinion of course. Hope you're having a lovely day up there! Huggles!...